Virgin Media to monitor filesharers

Using deep packet inspection tech provided by BAE

Virgin Media to monitor filesharers

27 November 2009 10:51 GMT / By Duncan Geere

Virgin Media is trialling a deep packet inspection system that will see 40% of the ISP's network being monitored for file sharing activity. The network plans not to inform customers that they're being monitored.

The system is called CView and is being provided by a subsidiary of BAE called Deltica, which specialises in large volume data collection and processing and usually works with intelligence agencies across the world. It'll operate at the centre of Virgin's network, and only attempt to determine the proportion of file sharing traffic that infringes copyright.

Customers are likely to be a little uncomfortable with Virgin Media handing over their emails and web browsing habits to a weapons manufacturer, but Virgin Media has emphasised that it just wants to measure the overall level of illegal file sharing, not keep records on individual customers.

BT's controversial Phorm advertising system used the same kind of technology, and also didn't inform or get consent from subscribers to the network. That proved to be a hot potato and was heavily criticized by privacy advocates and the internet community.

Virgin is preparing to launch a legitimate download service in partnership with Universal Music. "Understanding how consumer behaviour is changing will be an important requirement of Virgin Media's upcoming music offering and, should they become law, the Government's legislative proposals will also require measurement of the level of copyright infringement on ISPs' networks", said Jon James, executive director of broadband at Virgin Media.

If you're a Virgin Media subscriber, are you comfortable with this level of intrusion in your web browsing? Let us know in the comments.

 

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Comments

  • Nothing is private anymore. It's a joke.

    Im a virgin media subscriber and I cant believe how bad its gotten. Its like that movie eagle eye.
    Posted by Mark B, Ireland
  • Would they like our bank details too? they might as well have that too if they're going to monitor our every move online, its outrageous.

    Gives temptation to switch to a ISP which gives you privacy and security.
    Posted by Stevie M, England
  • im amazed at how quickly private data is now being stored by the Government. It started after 9/11 - and now we cant even surf the net without explicit details of our browsing being stored.

    Im going to look into IP blockers etc. there must be a way to prevent my personal net usage being monitored.

    This is a complete invasion of privacy. Big Brother is definitely in full swing and we may as well all have implants that log and feed back exact biometrics of where we are, what we are doing, and what we are thinking....i would rather live in Iraq under Saddam hussain than in the UK right now...I would of had more freedom
    Posted by theexo51, Uk
  • I run my router open because I have some equipment that for some reason doesn't get on well with WEP or WPA and both are hackable so... when someone uses my network router to get on the web without my permission, even if I have encryption up, is it my fault and is it my conenction that will be cut?

    If so then this is judge, jury and executioner in one. What right of recourse do I have? How is this going to check the validity of the person who actualyl commited the supposed crime.

    Ttruth is that it doesn't. It basically makes it possible to get anyone in criminal trouble by hacking their router and performing an act that they are supposed to stop, but can't... so you can be fined (or jailed (?)) if you have done nothing but own the equipment used to perform the criminal act.

    This is like putting people in jail if their cars are stolen and used to commit crimes. Its worse though as they lose the car as well...
    Posted by Rob McGregor, UK
  • I see a lot of ISPs losing cutomers over this when rolled out to them.

    good on virgin for being beta testers. Detica are great at what they do , however they have stated they have no plans to enable individual file sharer details on CView for now.

    for those who not yet had a listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_P4lJD_OPI
    Posted by Chris Spackett, EnGland for now
  • Not much of a downloader, myself, but I'll certainly be leaving Virgin now. Slippery slope towards the corporate-police state. Posted by Jesse, UK
  • streaming a bbc\iplayer episode over the web versus streaming a recorded movie from a site over the web .. will CView know the difference seeing as they both use the same technologies in a way Posted by Bob Down, Sadly the UK
  • Join the petition against the bill !!!

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/?showall=1


    I am full of critics towards this sick and ridiculous bill. Another one slap to the freedom. I am ready to participate in an uprising, to gather and shout it is just wrong.

    Have any of you even thought what the bill does? Gathering info about illegal content? It gives the right to company to data mining of every single aspect of your online activity. Some institution would know what pages you are waching, what are you reading, what you are buying, everything. Although, they will provide some other goverment institution with the data regarding illegal stuff.

    Where is the time to say enough? Now is the time!!!

    FREEDOM !!!

    Posted by GK, Poland
  • Well to be honest I thought they were doing this for ages, secretly.

    I honestly think Internet should be 100% free and unmonitored - ( sick people who do really bad things normally keep their stuff on their systems)

    Posted by Anthony, UK
  • nice to see a petition - however isnt that like some of you admiting you download unlawful content , but provided your name and address? Posted by I search the web in dos to avoid banner adds and block ip snooping x, I search the web in dos to avoid banner adds and block ip snooping x
  • "There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, when the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live, did live, from habit that became instinct, in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."

    Quote from George Orwell's 1984

    Such a gross invasion of personal privacy, all to protect film and music copyright holders. Welcome to fascist Britain, Labour party style.
    Posted by Darren, United Kingdom
  • its amazing i pay 22 pound a month for an at best 5mb connection from virgin,and now i have the possibility there watching my every move over the internet..best not order those kinky boots for my lady then?? they will be asking me next to take a webcam into the tiolet whilst i take a shit......typical fucking britain....pick on joe public...minority report in the making this...they will know what were doing before we do it...tossers!! Posted by zane, united kingdom

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