Motorola Droid leaked in more detail

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• Dont get it, how can a phone this ugly compete with an IPhone, why dont they put a little more design into such a hyped product. These guys are dumb.
  
  And btw im an MS fanboy,and dont even like Apple, but even I can say this. Posted by MadPrince, USA
• @MadPrince, I think the fashion conscious will buy iPhones regardless of whatever else is out there (after all the first iPhone was useless and sold well), so hopfully Motorola (and Google) have concentrated on great functionality. Posted by Richard Thompson, UK
• I think some of those that bought into the Ipod Phone Hype are jealous now at a rival with such ambition and market openess. They paid so much for so little of a phone. All i hear all day at work is can I borrow your charger, batteries dont last, cant swap out batteries and memory is pre installed have to disassemble phone to do anything with the IWannabe'.
  I'm sure they will all be on here whining and crying about what they got this dont and back and forth. Crybabies go home, real men step up, your Tool has arrived. Posted by Heavy D, The USofA
• I see the main problem being the Windows operating system. Have fun with your phone. I own an iPhone, and it does everything the droid does minus the flash. I hacked it with a VERY SIMPLE program which is probably easier to use then all the updates your going to have to install and run the phone on TMobile's network. With that said, the battery is a non-issue as most people don't turn off their app notifications, which constantly runs to update the apps databases. Do you really need to constantly know the most current Chuck Norris Joke? I don't think so. As far as opening the phone, why would I need to update my memory. It's a phone. It works amazingly fast and well and never crashes. I grew up a Vic 20, 64, 386sx, 486dx2... etc user. I switched to apple 3 years ago. I will never look back. Microsoft is crap. When Google develops their own independent operating system and phone, let me know. Sounds to me like someone is trying to develop a phone to compete with the iPhone, however to date no phone has come close. The Palm Pre is CRAP. The original Droid. Crap. The Storm, lol. CRAP. I will be happy to admit I was wrong, once that day comes. I don't see that happeneing with ANYTHING on Verizon. Just in order to use their network you have to abide by tons of regulations, which is why APPLE originally had the contract with Verizon and pulled it.
  
  Enjoy your Obama regulated phone. The only free phones in this country are those unlocked by their users and exploited to their full potential. Posted by Mr. Devious, USA
• Android may become the Windows of mobile devices - take the significant majority share.
  
  It's being rolled out everywhere in Kindle competitors like the Nook, home automation appliances, and of course mobile phones.
  
  Apple users don't whine. They often aren't even vocal until really pushed by some troll who has never used their products. It's a shame Apple advertising has to point out the obvious.
  
  Apple products rock because they lead innovation, design (useability, ergonomically, externally, internally, and lately in regards to energy efficient), ... and last and certainly not least - in integration.
  
  That's why people pay what seems a little more for Apple products - because Apple put more than a little more into finessing the product to be almost perfect.
  
  It won't blue screen on you, it won't start up with services running in the background that leave it wide open for viruses etc to happily exploit, and it will keep running as fast as the day you bought it.
  
  And Apple's operating systems (for desktop, ph, and server) evolve without disrupting the user by confusing them with crazy amounts of clicks and text to do anything as per Windows.
  
  Apple OSX has more tools, tweakability, and tested application libraries etc under the hood than any Windows OS, is a near true standard Unix, communicates easily with other operating systems (unlike Windows), and even makes it easy to run other OS on the same hardware eg Bootcamp.
  
  Windows is a Toy OS.
  
  Oh, but we were talking about Android, right?
  
  You'll find Android is as buggy, rushed to market, and slow as WinMo on mobile devices.
  
  So good luck finding the perfect implementation of Android on the perfect hardware.
  
  You may find 1 phone but chances are the next model will suck. Just as commodity PCs, laptops, etc vary in quality.
  
  And that's why people buy Apple, because most iterations of the hardware, the software, and overall user experience just keeping getting better.
  
  There's a reason Android is trying to copy Apples iPhone OS as Windows copied large chunks of the original Apple OS.
  
  Because Apple is the near perfect hybrid of a closed proprietary company with an open attitude to working with, using, and giving away open source code and applications.
  
  They do the hard work for the user by getting their products as perfect as possible for the user so the user can focus on what the machine was built for - fun, productivity, ... life.
  
  Have fun tweaking Android to stay stable, fast, and even look good, gripping about stupid hardware designs eg phone 'chins'... sounds like Windows users whining.
  
  The true crybabies are the ones who have to recover their box from a virus every 6-12months and never backed up.
  
  I work on multiple machines and operating systems daily.
  
  I wasted years tweaking, maintaining, and babysitting Windows boxes.
  
  Now I work solely on Macs because I easily run another OS in a VM, remote VNC to it, or boot to it via the same hardware, and if the other - crappy OS eg Windows, Ubuntu, etc falls over, Apple's OSX is always there to pick up the pieces.
  
  Life is too short to waste time on maintaining hardware, swapping batteries, recovering from viruses etc.
  
  I probably use more operating systems and hardware that they run on in a day than most people.
  
  The 'wannabes' are the likes of Android who are trying to copy the iPhone and will only ever come close to being the crappy Windows for mobile devices.
  
  If you want to not be a slave to a 'tool' then stick with Apple products.
  
  The iPh has a superior graphical system to Android's and any dated Linux graphical architecture, it has near full unix under the hood with real tools to work with nearly any OS, app, library, etc you need, and due to the hardware integration isn't going to freeze as often as an OS like Android that isn't going to be a good match for some of the devices its meant to run on.
  
  The reason the iPh isn't multitasking yet, which it can do like its desktop equivalent, is that Apple believes in giving its users the best experience.
  
  Many complain about how slow Android, Palm Pre, etc are because they run too many apps.
  
  If you want that experience, then buy something else than an iPh.
  
  The iPh does 90+% of what people want now.
  
  Once Apple tested multitasking to be better than competitors, then it will release it in a new iPh OS release, and it will put it on par with the multitasking in OSX.
  
  But in the meantime it isn't a dealbreaker for a user. That would be using a 'promise everything' OS like Android that can't take advantage of its hardware and underperforms because of poor integration etc, and freezes during a call or email because other apps that aren't being used are running in the background.
  
  You can 'jailbreak' or tweak the iPh OS and Apple's OSX all you want.
  
  But if you break it don't cry that you wish you used a different OS.
  
  There's a reason that Steve Jobs and his team of 50,000+ staff at Apple love their products... so that they don't cause you to curse at them like Windows etc.
  
  Apple launched the iPh in an already saturated smart phone market and it grows quicker than any other phone - WinMo phones, Nokia, etc... and Android phones.
  
  It's because they don't release stuff just for geeks to tinker with to make it run with out falling over.
  
  They release stuff that works - the first time - better than most - and for years.
  
  On the other hand, it'll take a few more versions and years for Android or any other mobile OS to come close... and they probably will never get close... as they are slapped on hardware and rushed to market by people who just care for the bottom line and often have no love of 'human life technology' like the Steve Jobs and his team at Apple.
  
  If you think Steve is a crybaby after building Apple, Next, Pixar, giving geeks, creatives, and 'everyday people' the best OS and hardware integrated to get anything done on the desktop, laptop, or in your palm, then you are true 'tool' of the hype of Android, Windows, etc.
  
  12% of US homes now have Apple products, over 20% of all laptops sold are by Apple, and guess the % of iPhones sold. Apple isn't going away. They are just getting more popular, stronger, and better.
  
  And more people now get to enjoy appliances that don't need extra time and money spent on them to do what they were originally intended to do, get a bucket load of quality free apps with their device, and can enjoy their lives more richly because they didn't waste time taking a chance with flaky bug ridden rushed to market Android or Windows.
  
  They get on with using their Apple products to make stuff that the rest of the world uses, loves, and often buys.
  
  
  
  Read about history - the true hackers are the ones who built Apple. They let you hack their products but they give you the best of both of both worlds - tweakability and rock solid software and hardware integration.
  
  There's no point in buying a car that you want to drive but have put on blocks in the garage to tweak and then find you can't drive it when you want.
  
  There's a reason why Apple products are a little less obvious to tweak - they are like Porsche while Android, Windows, etc are the Mitsi's.
  
  They need very little tweaking unlike the Androids etc.
  
  You can tweak your Mitsi all you want to be like the Porsche but it won't ever be.
  
  And all you'll do is waste time and money doing so.
  
  The best thing about Apple products is that you get Porsche like quality without the price jump.
  
  Every time Apples releaes a new product they drop prices... and they can afford to do so as now the average consumer knows how well their Apple products have 'server them' the customer, they are buying more of them.
  
  In the meantime the tech 'pundits' continue to guess when a comparable quality and feature rich phone may come about from some other company slapping Android or WinMo or whatever other OS onto some ugly phone hardware.
  
  And customers hope that company will keep delivering the goods in every version.
  
  That company is Apple, and that product is the iPhone.
  
  I never was a Mac fanboy until I used WinMo, Windows, Android, etc.
  
  I hope this 'rant' has saved someone the time and money from buying a second rate phone for a comparable price to the iPhone. Posted by notlikelyever, argentina
• notlikelyever, I work at Apple, and even where I work does no one suck on the teet of Jobs like you do. The iPhone doesn't crash?? Talk to the guys at the genius bar. 4 of the genius' at my store are buying the droid and are excited about it.
  
  And Apple computers are for every day idiots that sit online all day. No playing games, no (serious) development, no application support.
  
  I was a mac fanboy at one time, it's why I started working there, but then you realize apple is JUST like every other company, they copy from others, the only exception is that we are excellent at marketing.
  
  The "i" before everything? iRiver started that.
  
  Their operating system? Based on FreeBSD, a variation of Unix that they stole and profited off of.
  
  I can also list a ton of hardware idiocies they have created:
  
  Not including firewire on many new machines
  
  Non-removable batteries
  
  non-user accessible hard drive or RAM.
  
  Water damage indicators that trip via HUMIDITY.
  
  The Nano's ghetto camera
  
  The iPhone's terrible battery, oh, and non removable once again.
  
  The fact they have the nerve to charge 30 dollars for what they have done in the first place: CODE EFFICIENTLY. "Major optimizations!" My ass, they should have finished their code the first time.
  
  Their hypocritical and silly app approval methods
  
  Their inability to license out their OS to third parties manufacturers
  
  And now let's talk about the iPhone more in depth!
  -The original release, there were NO 3RD PARTY APPS.
  -They chose AT&T, nuff' said.
  -Shitty camera
  -Voice control in 3.0?? Took them that long?
  -Cut and paste...3.0...I've been doing it since windows 3.1
  -Inability to let developers access anything beyond user-level capabilites. The API only allow very limited access to hardware. You can't change the kernel. You can modify boot parameters, you can't do MANY things, as a developer, Apple is my enemy.
  
  Now let's talk about the issues with OS X and the hardware:
  
  -You can only buy from Apple, who charges TWICE the price for the same hardware. Go to best buy, look at the pricing of an ASUS Desktop. You can easily find one around 800 dollars with a Quad-core, at least 6GB of RAM, and an excellent card. Apple? The Quad core is 2 grand. What a joke.
  -Snow Leopard is a glorified service pack, no one should pay for it, even if it is 30 dollars.
  -Have fun replacing any parts and voiding your warranty simultaneously.
  -No Graphics card upgrade for you...or hard drive (without voiding warranty.)...or Processor.
  -20 Dollar adapters. For EVERYTHING. Connect your mac to an external display? 20 dollars to go from MDP to DVI or VGA.
  -Admit it, the Macbook air is fucking useless. No CD/DVD drive, slow processor, non upgradable, it's an overpriced netbook.
  
  Some myths about Macs and the truths
  -Ok, There IS A RIGHT CLICK, so leave that one alone.
  -Mac does NOT run photoshop better than Windows. It's the same fucking program.
  -Avid is much better than Final Cut Pro, always will be.
  -Admittedly, Logic is an excellent program for the mac.
  -XCode is available for developers, but if you want to program for Windows, do it on Windows, and save some hassle.
  -Mac used to be very stable, it was a selling point against Windows, but I have a snow leopard based iMac, 24" high end model, and an ASUS laptop, X83V model running the beta of Win7, and my Laptop is waaay more stable.
  
  To sum it up, Mac has some good points, but Apple as a company sucks as much as Microsoft does. On the other hand, Windows 7 is a great product, no matter what the annoying Apple ads tell you.
  Posted by Cadell, USA