Battery life issues reported with iPhone 3.0 update

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• Yup this happened to me. 32gb white one, after 1 phonecall it got extremely hot in the centre of the back panel. The battery then decreased after 2 hours....
  
  Got me a little scared however Carphone warehouse happily exchanged the handset straight away. The phone wouldnt even charge or anything which was a bummer over fathers day weekend.....sorry dad..... Posted by Steven Haskayne, England
• I use my iPhone 3G all day long. Before the upgrade to 3.0 I would have plenty of battery life to get me through the day and through about half of the next day. Now I am lucky if I have enough battery life to make it through the day. Drastic reduction in battery life. Posted by Jonathan Parker, US
• Solution:
  That was happening to my 1st gen iPhone after updating to 3.0.
  So I disabled Push for my Exchange account, and now the problem is solved. Well, not the best solution, since now I have to use Fetch to update my contacts and calendar, but it works until Apple fixes it. Posted by Vinicius Paceka, Brazil
• I'm seeing a battery drain from 100% to 40% on standby in my pocket all day, with no use at all on the 3GS. Posted by Bob, USA
• My battery is draining at about twice the speed, and the phone is certainly a little warmer than before. Its even slightly warm when left untouched for a while, which it never used to do.
  
  @ Vinicius - Thanks, I'll turn off Push as I need it to last longer and im interested to see if that makes a difference.
  
  But come on Apple - surely a few new features can't make this much difference! Posted by Stu, UK
• I have a similar problem with drastic reduction in battery life on my 3G since installing the 3.0 update. At around 4 or 5pm the phone has drained off without any warning.
  I have now switched off the location and find my phone to see if this helps. But frankly, what's the point in having a phone if you can't realistically run it with the proper specs turned on (don't even talk about 2G/3G settings).
  Ben Posted by Ben, South Africa
• My battery drained in 10 hours today and I never made a call. Downloaded email a few times, checked the web a few times and did one "map search." I also used "ToDo" for about 30 minutes.
  
  I downloaded 3.0 on Sunday. Posted by Fred Haney, USA
• I got same problem on my 3G iPhone, I am looking for how to downgrade until Apple fix the problem, I will never upgrade x.0 again, I can't trust them. Posted by George, Canada
• I'm having the same issue. I have a 2g iPhone running the 3.0 software and the battery life has reduced tremendously. I barely used my phone today and I had to recharge it 2 twice. It wasn't doing this prior to the update. Not to mention I don't even have 3G or any other battery consuming applications running in the background. Posted by Juan Gomez, USA
• Same here - before 3.0 my phone would last a full day. Yesterday I had to recharge twice. Last night my phone was fully charged when I went to bed and was completely dead by 6am. The phone is extremely hot at times. Posted by Keith Berry, USA
• I have a 2g 8GB iPhone. Upgraded to 3.0 and it completely drains my battery. It was full charged at 5:00 pm. I only used once. By 9:30 pm I got a 20% warning. By 10:30 the battery was dead. This is the 3rd day it has done this to me (ever since I upgraded). It gets extremely warm. Did not use to do this. I have turned off push and wifi. However, does this mean that my battery is fried? Will it recovery from this or do I need a new battery? Posted by Sam Peterson, United States
• iphone 3G 8GB: Since upgrading to 3.0 it now gets hot and the battery life is about 10hrs with very very little use.
  
  Please Apple, Help us out and fix this problem quickly!
  
  I've now resorted to turning all the connectivity side of the phone off (no 3G/wifi/bluetooth/ and have turned off push email) in a hope to regain a few precious hours of battery life lol. Posted by Ross Rayner-Brown, United Kingdom
• Yes. I am also facing this issue (hot and battery is draining very fast without use) in my 2G iPhone (16GB).
  Posted by Muthu Mohan T, INDIA
• I think the Find My iPhone feature is to blame as it keeps having to send location updates to the MobileMe server when activated on the phone. Posted by David James, England
• Same here hot & drains in 3/4 hours afther the update 3G 16gb
  An Vodafone employe here in Greece told me it is probably a problem with the push e-mail.They recommended me to tun it of for now.
  Many here have the same problem. Posted by André, Greece
• Brand new refurb off ebay, I guess I am glad to hear it is a software glitch.. I have turned off push, and am recharging again (it lasted me 5 hours today with wifi with little use because I was at work). I hope this is the problem and not a defective refurb.
  
  Also, this was an an iphone 1st gen. 8gb, and actually push wasnt working anyway, so no loss I guess. It is also unlocked and jailbroken if that makes a difference. Posted by John Smithhhers, Broken
• Me too.. turned off Find Iphone.. Push... Bluetooth .. my phone is fully charged at 11:30 pm by morning is OFF ..battery dead... alarm never went off... happened 2 nights in row since upgraded.! Posted by enrique, USA
• Yeah, happens to me too. Before upgrading to 3.0, I used to have it on all day and still have 50% left by end of the day. Now I have to keep it charged.
  The battery is also super hot, whether I am using it or not. Posted by Edward, USA
• Same problem. Battery is 30% drained by the time I get to the office in the AM. Constantly making interference noise in my office phone. Just tried turning off Push to see if it helps. Posted by Nader, Canada
• Same here - it's a massive problem - this needs to be fixed FAST for us and Apple Posted by Geis, USA
• Same Problem Apple Please Fix!! Posted by Andy, Ohio USA
• same same same same!!! Arghhh!!! Posted by Terence, Canada
• Turning Push off fixed it for me: Settings -> Mail, Contacts, Calendars -> Fetch New Data -> Set Push to OFF. I Have an Iphone 1st gen.
  redtechguru@gmail.com Posted by JF, Montreal Canada
• Turning Push off fixed it for me: Settings -> Mail, Contacts, Calendars -> Fetch New Data -> Set Push to OFF. I Have an Iphone 1st gen.
  redtechguru@gmail.com Posted by JF, Montreal Canada
• Sme problem also Wifi has stopped working. Posted by PC, UK
• I have this issue with the battery. I just got off the phone with Apple and they originally wanted to blame it on an old battery (I have the 3G). I told them highly unlikely and they either wanted me to send it in to them or drive an hour to the nearest Apple store to have them test. Apparently AT&T will not troubleshoot any iphones. On top of it all. If they blame it on the battery it will cost $80 bucks to replace or I can get an additional one year warranty for $69 that covers the battery. Also my warranty runs out in 16 days and doesn't cover the battery. What a racket. Posted by John B, USA
• I'm just going post this message here just to say that I don't think this issue is as widespread as all the comments would initially show. I've not had this particular issue, and several people I know with the 3G have been fine. Theres a little bit of a battery drop from using push notifications, but thats about it. As for the 'Find my iPhone', as far as I'm aware it only will transmit the data if MobileMe requests it. I'm not sure, but I think that's the case. Either way, seems enough people are having problems that it might be an issue with the OS.
  
  Anyway, sorry that people have been having these problems, and hope Apple gets round to fixing this. They seem to have a fairly good track record provided that people complain loudly enough. Posted by Matt Jessop, UK
• Upgraded to v3.0 yesterday......now my iPhone only receives calls (say) 10% of the time! The other 90% go straight to vmail without ringing. Vmail doesn't even show on screen so I have to dial 901 to check voicemail....and to see if anyone has left a message! Email/Safari/Google Maps all work fine and I can make calls no problem. However stand the phone near a speaker and it's just constant data traffic. Reset the phone just to make sure no apps running in background etc but still this 24x7x365 traffic. Battery barely lasts a day in standby now - not impressed :( Posted by D R Mays, UK
• I am haing the same problem. Lucky to get a few hours of battery. WArm to the touch. Have disabled push, wi-fi, locator, etc....no dice. Even restored the phone today. No help at all. Apple tech at 800 number had no idea what I was talking about. I don't think I can hold more than a few days. Is there any way to turn back the clock and return to the prior software version (2.0?) It worked great.....why did I update? how do we let Apple know there are many of us? Posted by Ross Hart, USA
• I'm relieved to read DR's posting here, so that I know that I'm at least not entirely alone with that second problem. But first: I too have the described battery issues. I upgraded yesterday and almost instantly afterwards, while still attached to my notebook, the back of my iPhone got very hot and would not even charge fully any longer. Since I've unplugged it from the computer less than 10 hours ago, the charge has almost completely depleted already, without me having made a single call or having done anything else but use FB and Tweetie once each for 1-2 minutes, on WiFi. So, yeah, this is completely unacceptable. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a mobile phone if you can't even go one day without needing to connect it to something to recharge. This needs to be fixed yesterday.
  
  But, like I said, I'm also having another, slightly stranger problem. Since the upgrade, I've also started having problems receiving calls. Making calls works fine, sending and receiving texts works fine, but it seems like I can only reliably receive calls when I have 3G turned on, which a) shouldn't really be affecting one another and b) obviously doesn't help the battery life, either. However, even with 3G turned on, the phone used to last a lot longer before the upgrade. Posted by Nestor, Canada
• Upgraded a 3g phone like all to 3.0 - The battery life went down like a sinking ship! 100% gone after 4 hours of use that on 2.2.1 would have lasted 7-12 hours. Spoke to Apple Cus. Care. they were not aware of the issue, said it should not happen and advised it may be a software error carried by the use of backups. They recommended restoring as a new phone, which I did. Now the phone gets warm not hot and drops about 10-20% per hour dependent on play. I run 2G with wifi, 3g, location off , mobile me push on. Apple must address this one. Posted by Tom, UK
• Same issue. Replaced my iPhone 3 times in the last few days. Posted by Marty , United States
• As a software engineer myself, I noticed that this happens after I run some specific applications. These ppalications apparently don't close well and they are still running in the background after you have abandoned them. Posted by JD, Greece
• Same problem here. Posted by Adrian, Slovakia
• Same problem on 2g phone, battery drains in about 4 hours. I notice that interference in nearby speakers is almost constant. I have push e-mail on an exchange server. There is no point to turning it off as that is my primary use of the device. VERY FRUSTRATING. I am sure my colleagues that use blackberrys will tell me that this does not happen to them. Posted by Christopher, usa
• I had the same issue with the battery after upgrading but after running a backup in itunes for the second time I notice the battery lasts near to normal (as 2.2.1). Although I don't know and can't promise that this was the solution it seems to be better now. Some apps seem to drain more battery life then others... Posted by Vic, SE
• I switched-off Push as one other reader suggested. I still get my emails etc in good time with Fetch as the battery is much improved. Try it. Posted by David James, England
• How annoying is this. I bought a new battery, (my iPhone is nearly 2 years old). Then I had to buy a soldering iron & solder, all because I thought the battery was knackered. Fortunately my son managed to fit the new one OK.
  Why didn't I come here first! Posted by Alan M., UK
• I hope Apple fixes this issue, FAST! I feel really frustrated about upgrading it. Some call and text messages aren't coming in. arrggghhh Posted by Amy leigh Rollera, Philippines
• updated to 3.0 last week and the same has happend to me poor battery life and know some of the app are slow to load shazam taks forever hurry up apple this is poor Posted by Sandy Marhall, uk
• Never had an iphone before 3.0, so I'm not sure if my battery life is normal or not...So far i'm at 12% Time since last full charge says 6 hours and 50 minutes. Actual usage is closer to 5 hours and 30 minutes...I talked on the phone a few times...one of the conversations was an hour and a half long...i texted quite a bit...What i did the most, however, was play games. Is playing games generally a pretty big battery drainer? Posted by Adam, USA
• Same problem here
  updated to 3.0 last week and battery drains in about 6-8 hours.
  I hope Apple fixes this issue !!!!! Posted by Arik, Israel
• I own an iPhone 3G. I tried every suggestion here, still NO. I even thought the applications are not compatible with 3.0 yet! So I didn't install any. But sadly, it didn't help a bit.
  
  I even had a devious thought; does Apple really issue "updates"? What if these so-called upgrades are actually "downgrades" meant to make your old Apple stuff slower and generally more incompetent? Making the new stuff look a lot better when compared side by side with the old ones? Think about it, some people here are actually convinced that the undesirable performance of their iPhone (especially the 1st gen) is caused by their "old" batteries. This would actually be enough reason to make you buy new Apple stuff.
  
  I don't mean to make Apple look bad. But Apple Support saying that they are "not aware of the problem" is a tad lame. I Googled the issue and came up with a plethora of results!
  
  Shape up Apple. I was a Sony Ericsson fan until the iPhone came. But right now, I reverted to using my old reliable Sony Ericsson G900. It's been in the storage for a year or two, but the battery life is as good as new. Posted by Bitoy, Philippines
• Same problems experienced here. 16 gb 3G. Very quick battery drain after 3.0 upgrade.
  
  SOLUTION: Reset network settings and deleted Google App
  
  RESULTS: So far, a LOT better. Back to usual it appears. Will test today for confirmation.
  
  NOTES/RATIONALE: Definitely no techie here, but someone had posted resetting network settings to clear old cache surmising it was a problem some way (so figured to give it a try), and also that Google App wasn't fully compatible with 3.0 and this results in battery drain. They also had mentioned other 3rd party apps as potential culprits, but I thought I'd start with Google app first. Posted by Stephan, USA
• What a hopeless forum.
  A more feckless collection of wingers would be difficult to imagine.
  Not one of you seems to have actually tried anything to fix this!
  In the absence of any obvious cause, I re-flashed a 3G iPhone which had been suffering from the power issue and for several days now, have been experiencing good battery life.
  Sorry to mention the fact that I actually attempted to 'do' something lest it cause some of you to feel uneasy however, the Ghandhi approach to technology has never been a great love of mine. Posted by Fortnum Bentwich, UK
• UPDATE: Battery STILL DOING GREAT -- see my original post two posts up. It has now been 10 hours and my phone is down to just 93%. Posted by Stephan, USA
• I had a 3G that had a crack in the case within warranty and Apple gave me a new (they thought) 3G, and they upgraded to OS 3.0. My original 3G on the old OS had good battery life, but the new one with the upgraded OS has terrible battery lilfe--about 7 or 8 hours with very little use. I guess I'll take this one back and try my luck with another 3G. Posted by john, USA
• wow, i thought i was the only one with this problem. Ever since i upgrated to 3.0 my phone is extremely hot, and my battery runs out soo fast...i have to charge it 2-3 times a day. Posted by Nermina, US
• Wow, I'm so glad I finally found your comments. I thought it was just me. Here is what I've done and it has still not improved. I'm working with my biz sales rep at the Apple store and most of the geniuses there as well. I'm going to try the "restore Network settings" today and see what that does. But for those that are interested here is what I've been through.
  
  Symptoms:
  1. Battery life is VERY short (sometimes less than an hour)
  2. Very hot to the touch
  3. Usage and Standby time is exactly the same (under Setting/General/Usage)
  
  Steps:
  1. Downloaded 3.0 software on June 17th - battery life was very short and very hot to the touch.
  2. Phone started burning through battery called Biz rep - was instructed to delete the 3.0 download from the library, update to 3.0 and restore from back up in case I had gotten a bad download.
  3. Came to store, got new 3.0 software from store computer. Hooked to my laptop and set up as new phone and synced.
  4. Came to store Thursday, June 25th - got new iPhone, store did the update to 3.0 (transfered SIM card), set up as new phone to laptop and synced
  5. Came to store June 29th - got new iPhone again (Transfered SIM card), cleaned out all files of iTunes with "Appcleaner", reinstalled iTunes - new iPhone was updated to 3.0 on store computer, setup as new iPhone on iTunes, synced.
  
  I don't know how Apple wouldn't know about the issue now. I've been in the store three times on the phone once and gotten two new 3g 16gb white iPhones. I alone am costing them a good chunk of change. Posted by Meredith, USA
• same problem here, is there any way to restore it previous version? Posted by SirTie, Canada
• I have the same issue on my new 32gb 3G S iPhone. Have restored and resetup as new phone and not used backup but phone still gets very hot and is losing 10-20% per hour even without use!
  
  This is my 1st iPhone too - I'm so disappointed :( Posted by Richard, United Kingdom
• Iphone 3G 8GB: Since upgrading to 3.0 it now gets hot and the battery life is about 7hrs with very very little use, I notice that interference in nearby speakers is almost constant.
  
  Also suddenly I cant make or receive any calls, when someone call me, he got unavailability message - the network (Vodafone EG) and the coverage is full.
  
  Please Apple, Help us out and fix this problems quickly, this is not acceptable from Apple!!
  
  Posted by Mohamed Shoukry, Egypt
• I had the same problems like you guys, and i think i reach something to fix theses problems:
  1- The Battery life
  2- The Interferences with speaker
  3- Hot back even with no use
  
  iTunes ask to update the carrier settings...! this is the reason for all the problems (I think) it makes some kind of conflict and like is something processing in the background, consuming the battery and make the phone back hot and also make the interference in nearby speakers.
  
  i fix my problem by resetting the Iphone, then connect to iTune for backup with ignoring any request for update the carrier setting.
  
  Apple support team may investigate my notes and work on it! that might help.
  Posted by Mohamed Shoukry, Egypt
• As a former employee for Apple i am extremely pleased to annouce that us here at Apple intend to do absolutely nothing about our ongoing battery malfunction on our IPhones. Please be informed that Apple will continue to screw all of you in the ass and many more new IPhone owners for many many more years to come. So please stop acting like a bunch of whores and just keep making us rich!!
  
  Thank You
  Posted by Barthomeleu Greenburg, Spokesman Apple,
• Used to get a week out of a charge and after the 3.0 update I get 1 day. Posted by Dave, Canada
• owned my new 3G S for about 3 days, noticing the exact same problems, heating up and my battery seems to drain to 20% in 4~6 hours with very little use or just with it in my pocket with the iPod running. i also get about 7 hours of standby time. i left it on my desk the first night i got it and it was battery dead in the morning. i thought it was the hardware, thank God its not. i hope 3.1 fixes this. and soon. 6 hours is unacceptable. by anyone's standards. especially mine.
  
  I have tried the Phone in airport mode and with all settings like push turned off. to no avail.
  
  I damn hope apple fixes this soon, because its sucking all the joy out of owning my new iPhone that i waited for for so long. Posted by Jos, Australia
• I should also mention that i am finding the iPod is actually skipping back a fraction of playback when playing in the background when I open or close app's. sometimes as well.
  i heard this problem didn't exist with the iPhone. Posted by Jos, Australia
• same problem here on 3G 8GB. Charged the phone all night, got up at 6:30 and it was dead by 1pm. has happened several different days now and I don't use push on anything but mobileMe - going to turn that off now and see if it's better tomorrow. Posted by Matt Weier, United States
• I am having all kinds of problems. Planned obsolesence I suspect. I recharge mine like 3 times a day and i am never on it. Text from time to time. Its amazing. Cant wait til someone else gets this phone...between ATT and the inept apple people passing the buck to ATT or an Apple store, why cant they get this crap right! Posted by Malik, sorry ass USA
• Same problem on my straight 3GS even with push turned off. I turned off the 3G access as a temp fix and that seems to have stopped the draining. Would be nice to have a software fix to turn it back into a usable 3G phone. Posted by MacGuy, USA
• SAME WITH ME. I cannot recieve messages or calls. goes straight to voicemail and it gets mega hot. its been on charge all day i took it off at 10 and now the baterys 20% at 4. not impressed in the slightest. apple sucks. Posted by TE, fghghgh
• Follow the advices here under the optimize your settings. http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
  
  I found out that the notification (new feature) is the killer. My battery is back to normal now. Posted by Brad, Canada
• Yes, is a fact that the battery lasts less than one day only with the phone in standby mode, but is worst if the Wireless is on or the ipod plays few songs.
  
  I hope that an fix for this issue should be released in the next moths.... Posted by Carlos Uzcategui, Venezuela
• Follow the advices here under the optimize your settings. http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
  
  Yes, I have proved that notification is the killer. Turn it off, everyone. I still have my push on. My battery is back to normal, lasting over 2 days. Posted by Brad, Canada
• F*** all apple geniuses and fido and rogers tech who keep deniying this problem. its like they read a pre written text when you call to tell them about the problem your having after reading these posts i say f*** apple I'm going back to my trustworthy HTC with windows mobile software. Posted by Martin Lafleur, Canada
• I'm not sure if it's already mentioned in all these posts but I had to turn off "push" (Settings>Mail...>Fetch New Data) AND "notifications" (Settings>Notifications) and then do a reset to stop the phone constantly communicating over the GSM network - it's producing a noise on my speakers AND draining the battery. Had a similar problem on a Windows Mobile phone, push services just drain battery too much - fetching stuff every hour should suffice for me. Posted by Mark H, UK
• i was about to buy a new battery and replace it but i came across this. so maybe it will still die quickly. it also drains while plugged to the charger. i restored it and no luck either. this started happening not even a week after upgrading to 3.0. and lastnight i plugged it and this morning it was on the red flashing battery anyways. should i throw it against the brick wall in my backyard? can someone mail me with the solution when apple finds it? jssn510@yahoo thank yo'll Posted by jason, usa ca
• They Have found a Solution to this. It worked for me!
  
  http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2110415 Posted by Jason, Mexico
• I myself have this problem my iphone 3gs will drain power about 20% each hr yesterday it was flat by 3pm, And will will not reach full 100% charge even if left over night and i have the latest 3.1 firmware. Posted by Dunc2047, uk
• Someone mentioned carrier setting. i belive this is true because my fault started after this update.
  Done a restore and hope this fix's the problem will keep you all informed. Posted by Dunc2047, uk
• Hi
  It is the carrier settings that are causing the problems.
  i did a factory reset and when it asked to install updated carrier setting say no then all is fine
  Started using my phone at 7.30am its now 3.30 pm and only lost 20% all day.
  Hope this helps Posted by dunc2047, uk
• I have had ther same problem with the 32Gb 3GS iphone. I replaced the first one I obtained on contract from Carphone Warehouse and, after three weeks, it suddenly became incredibly not - the battery life was dreadful. Yesterday, the same problem struck teh second unit. It became very hot adn the battery ran down from full charge (it was charged overnight) at 10.30 a.m to 20% by 9.00 p.b. with NO calls being made, no e-mail being used, ni music being listened to and only two text messages being sent. I am very disappointed withthis elementary aspect of operation. Apple gives me the pip at the moment. Posted by Mike Woods, UK
• Im having the same problem too, i have an iphone 3gs 32gb white, and ive had it for maybe just over a month. The software pre-installed (im fairly sure) was 3.0 and it was doing fine until just a few days ago. Then i noticed the battery would die overnight (the usage says 4 hours, on standby, which is ridiculous) but the thing is, i updated the software to 3.01 maybe 2 weeks ago? and it held out ok until 3 days ago. So i have a feeling its not the software. And also, like many others, it was receiving calls at a lower rate and emitting a radio tone through the speakers and a hot battery.
  
  But it think i have a solution for all the pay-and-go's out there. Im on o2 as well so i hope this makes sense, because i think its worked for me. few more tests.
  
  Under cellular data network in network settings, replace: "idata.o2.co.uk," under APN (top one) with: "payandgo.o2.co.uk," as instructed when buying the thing. For some reason it changed it for me back to idata, and after doing this, the phone INSTANTLY cooled down and stopped the radio tone. ive literally just done this so let me know if any of you notice this has happened. Hope it helps. Posted by josh, england
• As an edit to what i previously wrote, this solution DOES work. My phone has been on for well over 40+ hours with alot of music, game and messaging usage and is just know reaching the 20% mark.
  
  So for all those on pay-and-go, try my solution above and tell me what happens. Posted by josh, england
• my iphone is only a week and a half old! and i havent even updated.
  but now if i charge it before i go to bed it has drained by the time i get up!
  i also fail to recieve some messages, could this be because of the sim card transfer?
  like when you get your number and call time and bolt ons transfered.
  
  Also i tried Josh's (from england) way of getting thebattry to last. ive only just done it, but you cant hear it through the radio anymore :D. Posted by Beki, N, Ireland
• Josh and Beki, I had the exact same problem as you both untill just 5 minutes ago when I read his advice and it worked perfectly!! YOU ARE A LEGEND AND A SCHOLAR BUDDY!
  
  I first noticed the constant static through my stereo last night and seriously thought my phone was screwed up because it's jailbroken and unlocked and thought this must be the price i'm going to pay but it was just simply the wrong settings!. I corrected the Network settings and it has definitely cured the Static, I just hope it cures the draining battery now aswell!! I of course am also an O2 pay and go customer so these settings where completely relevant. I checked the O2 iphone website and noticed that the MMS APN setting should also be updated to 'payandgo.o2.co.uk' if you use it. Apparently it doesn't matter about the other settings.
  
  I will post back to confirm if battery life is better to back up Josh once again!
  
  Cheers guys. Posted by Andy, Northern Ireland
• I dont know why my comment got deleted! >:S But I am confirming that Josh's method worked perfect for me to clear the constant static and completely cured the battery drain. I hope this helps somebody else. Was there such a problem with this?? Doubt i'll be back on www.pocket-lint.com again if it is deleted again! Posted by Andy, N, Ireland