We've done it before at Pocket-lint, we'll do it again, but on walking into HTC's press event, we happened to spot their new handsets lying on a chair at the front of the stage.
We grabbed a quick snap of the back of the two new devices before they were rescued by an HTC insider.
So we know they are coming - the HTC Desire HD and the HTC Desire Z. Both come with HTC Sense and we can see Dolby Digital and SRS logos on the Desire HD, so it looks like Samsung's Galaxy S is well in the sights, as is Nokia's N8.
We'll bring you more as we find it out.